<div dir="ltr">I very much like the idea of this project - I've been looking for a decent full-mesh L3 VPN for ages, and have never found a solution I've been properly happy with. Thanks for your work in developing this solution :-).<div><br></div><div>However - I'm concerned about some of the potential increased attack surface that your architecture introduces:<div> - uses extra crypto functionality which is not already part of wireguard; and</div><div> - passes messages across public networks using that functionality; and</div><div> - clamps the wireguard keys in some unspecified way to embed a proof-of-work (in fairness, I haven't read the code, so please correct me if I have misunderstood).</div><div><br></div><div>For what it's worth, if it would be possible to also encapsulate your control protocol inside wireguard, that would be vastly preferable: it allows the transport cryptography to be implemented in one place, once (i.e. in wireguard), and lets wirehub be a purely organisational overlay for managing links, rather than touching the crypto and introducing troubling extra complexities.</div><div><br></div><div>I would also love to see some sort of PKI option with this project, to avoid having to explicitly trust all the peers. I'd prefer to be able to simply provide the peers with a signature they can present to other peers that proves they can be trusted (or even better, have that signature generated by a nominated host at connect / setup time for each peer, which avoids much of the shenanigans involved with handling expiry, revocations etc.) Having the ability to tell all peers on the network to immediately terminate all connections with a specific compromised peer would also be handy.<br><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Steve<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:15 Gawen ARAB <<a href="mailto:g@wenarab.com">g@wenarab.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<br><br>I've been giving my free time on a side project called WireHub<br>(<a href="https://github.com/gawen/wirehub" target="_blank">https://github.com/gawen/wirehub</a>), which is a simple tool to build<br>decentralized, peer-to-peer and secure overlay networks. It dynamically<br>configures WireGuard tunnels, discoverying peers' endpoints via a authenticated<br>DHT, going through NATs, and relaying the WireGuard traffic if no P2P<br>communication is possible.<br><br>Overlay networks are defined by a single human-readable file which lists the<br>hostname and public key for each nodes of the network. Here's an example:<br><br> name test # network name is 'test'<br> subnet <a href="http://10.0.42.0/24" target="_blank">10.0.42.0/24</a> # overlay subnetwork is <a href="http://10.0.42.0/24" target="_blank">10.0.42.0/24</a><br> workbit 8 # PoW parameter for DHT security<br><br> # a public bootstrap node<br> boot P17zMwXJFbBdJEn05RFIMADw9TX5_m2xgf31OgNKX3w <a href="http://bootstrap.wirehub.io" target="_blank">bootstrap.wirehub.io</a><br><br> # Add trusted node 'a.test' to the overlay network.<br> # Each trusted node are at least identified by an human-readable hostname<br> # and a base64 public key.<br> trust a.test KJ7YGrBeqLLm_JJ1huIS26OnqAVFy57z5UJqjyMagW4<br><br> # If the endpoint of a peer is static, it might be set after the public key.<br> # Note that this is optional, as endpoints can be dynamically found in the<br> # DHT.<br> trust b.test eIix5ldvqDzOIrG9ViKTe9TSBlF4g9nUwKi20C06hFM 12.34.56.78<br><br> # By default WireHub assigns nodes an (overlay) private IP, but a static<br> # private IP might be defined<br> trust c.test 10.0.42.254 kKZzuIm11zkBSHL9ETRwEthIBbLTvz840F_k4mhI_Hs<br> ...<br><br>To start a peer,<br><br> # wh up ./config private-key ./sk<br><br>When a network is up, the node's hostnames are resolved in userland.<br><br> # ping b.test<br> PING 10.0.42.2 (10.0.42.2): 56 data bytes<br> 64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.42.2" target="_blank">10.0.42.2</a>: seq=0 ttl=64 time=106.801 ms<br> 64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.42.2" target="_blank">10.0.42.2</a>: seq=1 ttl=64 time=49.778 ms<br><br>WireGuard and WireHub uses the same Curve25519 key. WireHub keys must be<br>generated with `wh genkey`, which adds a Proof-of-Work to the generation of the<br>Curve25519 key, in order to mitigate Sybil attacks on the DHT. A high workbit<br>will require more work to generate a valid key.<br><br> # wh genkey workbit 8 # fast<br> MFaqLuutFvNs79Xc9zhOUofIbL3xSLz1uo+RB1xB73s=<br> # wh genkey workbit 8 | wh pubkey | wh workbit<br> 8<br> # wh genkey workbit 16 # will take more time to generate<br> kLfotsCIfB/7OcDGeLenptfy2Dzav9wmVZjVQ0Gvnk0=<br> # wh genkey workbit 16 | wh pubkey | wh workbit<br> 16<br><br> # wg genkey | wh pubkey | wh workbit # WireGuard keys have 0 workbit<br> 0<br><br>Under the hood, WireHub runs its own UDP protocol, binding the same UDP port<br>than the WireGuard interface (for NAT trasversal technique reasons). It does so using<br>libpcap. The first byte of a WireHub packet is 0xff, which corresponds to an<br>invalid WireGuard packet with message type outside the valid range 0x00-0x03.<br><br>WireHub currently authenticates its packets with a custom cryptographic scheme<br>based on the node's keys. In the future, it might be better to tunnel WireHub<br>packets through WireGuard, yet I'm not sure how to do that simply at the moment,<br>as WireHub packets are not IP packets but more like authenticated messages.<br><br>There's much room for improvement (security, allowed-ips management, more UDP<br>hole punching techniques, faster relaying), but it's usable. Docker images are<br>provided to ease quick starting.<br><br>Feel free to test and give some feedbacks!<br><br>Also, I'll be at FOSDEM 2019 next week-end, so see you there! 🍺<br><br>Gawen</div></div>
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</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Cheers,</p>
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